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Sally Shears wrote at: 2004-05-13 12:07:59
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Recently at Denver International Airport... Big banners say "AT&T WiFi now in this airport!" But, I was totally unable to connect with my Powerbook. Each time I selected the AT&T Wireless access point, "There was an error joining this network." Is DIA WiFi broken for Apple users? I've had very good experiences with t-mobile in other public places. -- Sally -- Sally Shears (a.k.a. "Molly") sshears RemoveThis (~=~) theWorld.com -or- Sally RemoveThis (~=~) Shears.org http://theWorld.com/~sshears |
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read_the_signature wrote at: 2004-05-13 17:12:59
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Sally Shears <sshears.TakeThisOut (~=~) theworld.com wrote: Recently at Denver International Airport... Big banners say "AT&T WiFi now in this airport!" But, I was totally unable to connect with my Powerbook. Each time I selected the AT&T Wireless access point, "There was an error joining this network." Is DIA WiFi broken for Apple users? I've had very good experiences with t-mobile in other public places. -- Sally I couldn't get my powerbook to work there either. I've seen this "There was an error joining this network" before on other networks that were using WEP and I had the incorrect key. Perhaps the AT&T WiFi at DIA requires a WEP key? -- John J. Rushford http://www.larush.com |
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read_the_signature wrote at: 2004-05-13 17:18:00
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read_the_signature.DeleteThis (~=~) null.com wrote: Sally Shears <sshears.DeleteThis (~=~) theworld.com wrote: Recently at Denver International Airport... Big banners say "AT&T WiFi now in this airport!" But, I was totally unable to connect with my Powerbook. Each time I selected the AT&T Wireless access point, "There was an error joining this network." Is DIA WiFi broken for Apple users? I've had very good experiences with t-mobile in other public places. -- Sally I couldn't get my powerbook to work there either. I've seen this "There was an error joining this network" before on other networks that were using WEP and I had the incorrect key. Perhaps the AT&T WiFi at DIA requires a WEP key? Found this link, looks like you do need to be a subscriber with a user id and password: http://www.cell-phone-plans.net/forum/Cell_Phone_Provider_Forums_C3/AT...ireless -- John J. Rushford http://www.larush.com |
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Alan Anderson wrote at: 2004-05-13 17:41:59
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sshears.TakeThisOut (~=~) theWorld.com wrote: Recently at Denver International Airport... Big banners say "AT&T WiFi now in this airport!" But, I was totally unable to connect with my Powerbook. Each time I selected the AT&T Wireless access point, "There was an error joining this network." Based on experience with my brother-in-law's wireless network, I think it might have something to do with the length of the WEP key. If your AirPort card hasn't been updated past 40 bits, that might do it. |
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Sally Shears wrote at: 2004-05-15 02:22:59
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In article <1UWoc.44070$536.7782930 (~=~) attbi_s03, <read_the_signature.DeleteThis (~=~) null.com wrote: read_the_signature.DeleteThis (~=~) null.com wrote: Sally Shears <sshears.DeleteThis (~=~) theworld.com wrote: Is DIA WiFi broken for Apple users? I've had very good experiences with t-mobile in other public places. -- Sally I couldn't get my powerbook to work there either. I've seen this "There was an error joining this network" before on other networks that were using WEP and I had the incorrect key. Perhaps the AT&T WiFi at DIA requires a WEP key? Found this link, looks like you do need to be a subscriber with a user id and password: http://www.cell-phone-plans.net/forum/Cell_Phone_Provider_Forums_C3/ATT_Wirele ss_Forum_F17/ATT_Wireless_and_T-Mobile_USA_Sign_Airport_Wi-Fi_Roaming_Agreement_P253/ Thanks John -- Yes, from the link you can subscribe and install some "AT&T WiFi Software". I didn't investigate further, but I suspect this is for the monopoly OS, not ours. But, the page and the banners at DIA say, "Or, you can just open your laptop, open your browser, and you'll see a payment page." This simply didn't work for me... "Error in joining the network..." There is an interesting element... AT&T and t-mobile have agreed to let subscribers use each others' networks. I use t-mobile at Starbucks at lot and it works well. Why can't an Apple laptop connect at DIA? -- Sally -- Sally Shears (a.k.a. "Molly") sshears.DeleteThis (~=~) theWorld.com -or- Sally.DeleteThis (~=~) Shears.org http://theWorld.com/~sshears |
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Sally Shears wrote at: 2004-05-15 02:25:00
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In article <aranders-1305042242280001 RemoveThis (~=~) 192.168.1.100, Alan Anderson <aranders RemoveThis (~=~) netusa1.net wrote: sshears RemoveThis (~=~) theWorld.com wrote: Recently at Denver International Airport... Big banners say "AT&T WiFi now in this airport!" But, I was totally unable to connect with my Powerbook. Each time I selected the AT&T Wireless access point, "There was an error joining this network." Based on experience with my brother-in-law's wireless network, I think it might have something to do with the length of the WEP key. If your AirPort card hasn't been updated past 40 bits, that might do it. Thanks, Alan, but I serious doubt it's a WEP problem. The instructions are "Open your laptop, open your browser, and you'll be redirected to a payments page." Also, MacStumbler says that the network is not using WEP. Why can't Macs connect at DIA? -- Sally -- Sally Shears (a.k.a. "Molly") sshears RemoveThis (~=~) theWorld.com -or- Sally RemoveThis (~=~) Shears.org http://theWorld.com/~sshears |
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Barry Margolin wrote at: 2004-05-15 07:40:59
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In article <jdm-46BA68.14483415052004.RemoveThis (~=~) peabody.colorado.edu, James Meiss <jdm.RemoveThis (~=~) NOSPAM.invalid wrote: In article <150520041225416585%sshears (~=~) theWorld.com, Sally Shears <sshears.RemoveThis (~=~) theWorld.com wrote: Thanks, Alan, but I serious doubt it's a WEP problem. The instructions are "Open your laptop, open your browser, and you'll be redirected to a payments page." Does anyone know how this works? It seems quite amazing to me--you are in some sense connected to the network, but you can only access a single web page. Our university wireless networks are like this too. What is amazing is that they remember you, so you only have to do the web page thingy once. Does that mean they copy your MAC address into a database someplace or something? Yes. I expect it works in conjunction with the DHCP server, which has to keep track of which MAC address was assigned which IP address. This is also the mechanism used in hotel room broadband connections (although they could also do it based on the physical port that you're connected to -- a good test would be to take two laptops to a hotel, pay with one and then connect the other and see if it demands another payment). Until you've paid, all your traffic is redirected to a proxy server that asks for your credit card info. -- Barry Margolin, barmar.RemoveThis (~=~) alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** |
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Sally Shears wrote at: 2004-05-17 15:13:00
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In article <barmar-388958.17410015052004 DeleteThis (~=~) comcast.dca.giganews.com, Barry Margolin <barmar DeleteThis (~=~) alum.mit.edu wrote: In article <jdm-46BA68.14483415052004 DeleteThis (~=~) peabody.colorado.edu, James Meiss <jdm DeleteThis (~=~) NOSPAM.invalid wrote: In article <150520041225416585%sshears (~=~) theWorld.com, Sally Shears <sshears DeleteThis (~=~) theWorld.com wrote: Thanks, Alan, but I serious doubt it's a WEP problem. The instructions are "Open your laptop, open your browser, and you'll be redirected to a payments page." Does anyone know how this works? It seems quite amazing to me--you are in some sense connected to the network, but you can only access a single web page. Our university wireless networks are like this too. What is amazing is that they remember you, so you only have to do the web page thingy once. Does that mean they copy your MAC address into a database someplace or something? Yes. I expect it works in conjunction with the DHCP server, which has to keep track of which MAC address was assigned which IP address. This is also the mechanism used in hotel room broadband connections (although they could also do it based on the physical port that you're connected to -- a good test would be to take two laptops to a hotel, pay with one and then connect the other and see if it demands another payment). Until you've paid, all your traffic is redirected to a proxy server that asks for your credit card info. The router/proxy "hijacks" the first web page you try to visit and sends you instead to the "payments" page. In many hotels I've tried, his works whether you have DHCP or a fixed IP. I suspect DIA is the same. It may be a kluge... I think it works if you have an (invalid!) fixed IP in your configuration. Something in the middle acts as a proxy to serve you regardless. Anyone know if this is correct? -- Sally -- Sally Shears (a.k.a. "Molly") sshears DeleteThis (~=~) theWorld.com -or- Sally DeleteThis (~=~) Shears.org http://theWorld.com/~sshears |
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