Primary IDE Channel - No 80 Conductor Cable Installed
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Max Jamison wrote at: 2003-08-17 15:47:27
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I just replaced my Intel Pentium II Celeron 400 CPU and motherboard with a new AMD Athelon 2400 CPU and motherboard. When I try to boot up, I now go into a POST loop that includes the following statement: "Primary IDE Channel - No 80 conductor cable installed." Only one problem: I have never HAD any 80 conductor cables ANYWHERE on my computer! My computer includes: 1 3.5" floppy drive (A:) - pre-existing, 3 hard drives (C:, D:, and E:) - pre-existing, 1 250MB Zip drive (F:) - pre-existing, 1 CD drive (G:) - pre-existing, 1 DVD/CD-R drive (H:) - new. The POST finds all of the above. I have double checked all of the ribbon and power connections, and found all okay. What's going on, and how do I fix it? . |
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grahamilton wrote at: 2003-08-17 16:44:08
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Sounds to me you have no idea what a 80 Conductor Cable is, I think you should read the manual that came with the motherboard, theres always something about this in motherboard manuals When you say replaced do you mean you built your own computer with those parts, if so; I could write a lot about this, but I'm not because I cant be arsed also theres plenty about this on the internet goto www.google.com and search for it. Basicaly, you need to replace the IDE 40 conductor cables that are attached to the hard drives with IDE 80 conductor cables, it is not neccesary to use IDE 80 conductor cables on Optical Drives (your CD &DVD/CD-R drive). go to a computer shop and ask them for a IDE 80 conductor cable (you may need to 2 if you have three hard drives) and get them to explain the basics about this, tell them what motherboard, hard drives & optical drives you have and ask them about installing them. If you bought this PC as a complete unit from somewhere, I suggest you take it back and tell what's happening. A temp. solution is to go into your BIOS and disable UDMA for your drives, this will reduce performance for those drive. Anyway good luck "Max Jamison" <sjhayes4 (~=~) comcast.net> wrote in message news:026701c36500$c59445e0$a301280a (~=~) phx.gbl... > I just replaced my Intel Pentium II Celeron 400 CPU and > motherboard with a new AMD Athelon 2400 CPU and > motherboard. When I try to boot up, I now go into a POST > loop that includes the following statement: "Primary IDE > Channel - No 80 conductor cable installed." Only one > problem: I have never HAD any 80 conductor cables > ANYWHERE on my computer! > > My computer includes: > 1 3.5" floppy drive (A:) - pre-existing, > 3 hard drives (C:, D:, and E:) - pre-existing, > 1 250MB Zip drive (F:) - pre-existing, > 1 CD drive (G:) - pre-existing, > 1 DVD/CD-R drive (H:) - new. > > The POST finds all of the above. I have double checked > all of the ribbon and power connections, and found all > okay. > > What's going on, and how do I fix it? > . |
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Max Jamison wrote at: 2003-08-18 23:12:31
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1) You're right about my not knowing what a 80 Conductor Cable is. The only cables I've ever heard of that fit the 40 pin IDE1 and IDE2 receptacles are 40 pin ribbon cables. So, HOW in the blue blazes are we supposed to tell the difference between 40 Conductor Cables and 80 Conductor Cables if BOTH are 40 pin ribbon cables? 2) Page 2-16 of MSI's KTV4V Series Quick User's Guide simply states: "Hard Disk Connectors: IDE1 & IDE2 "The mainboard has a 32-bit Enhanced PCI IDE and Ultra DMA 33/66/100/133 controller that provides PIO mode 0-4, Bus Master, and Ultra DMA 33/66/100/133 function. You can connect up to four hard disk drives, CD-ROM, 120MB floppy (reserved for future BIOS) and other devices." 3) I replaced the existing ATX-style Aopen AX6B motherboard/Intel Pentium II Pro Celeron 400 CPU with a new ATX-style MSI KT4V motherboard/AMD Athlon XP 2400 CPU. That SHOULD have been a "no brainer"! Whether the PC in which I replaced the motherboard was factory-built or home-built is irrelevant. MOST reputable PC builders like Dell and MANY local firms use open architecture - and the same high quality parts. I stay away from proprietary factory-built PCs like HP and Compac PRECISELY because I may want the option to upgrade AS I wish WHEN I wish later on. 4) I DID search Goggle AND Yahoo AND Microsoft's website AND my PC repair book from my 1995 A.A.S. in Computer Network Technology. Nada! 5) I HAVE taken my PC back to the local store from which I have purchased 90% of it's parts. The new techie working my problem has no more idea than I about differences between IDE 40 and IDE 80 conductor cables. After 3-4 hours of work, he's replaced the 40-pin cable that came with the motherboard and the other new one I took out of a package with new ribbon cables. He can boot to the CD drive IF it's connected to the IDE1 or IDE2 cable, but NOT if it's connected to the SIIG Dual Channel Ultra ATA/133 PCI Controller card. He intends to remove the 133 controller card, "repair" the Microsoft XP Home Edition installation on the hard drives, and then re- install the 133 controller card. 6) My MSI motherboard's AMI BIOS setup does not permit disabling UDMA (as my older Aopen motherboard's AMI BIOS setup did). . |
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Randy Vikssten wrote at: 2003-08-19 02:30:05
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"Max Jamison" wrote: > 1) You're right about my not knowing what a 80 Conductor > Cable is. The only cables I've ever heard of that fit > the 40 pin IDE1 and IDE2 receptacles are 40 pin ribbon > cables. So, HOW in the blue blazes are we supposed to > tell the difference between 40 Conductor Cables and 80 > Conductor Cables if BOTH are 40 pin ribbon cables? Both 40-conductor and 80-conductor ribbon cables have 40-pin *connectors*. Half the conductors in the 80- conductor cable are connected to one or more of the several grounded pins of the connector. That puts each signal conductor between 2 grounded conductors - shielding it from cross-talk and other extraneous bad stuff. They have different appearances, since the 80-conductors make 80 ridges along the cable instead of 40 ridges. See the following: http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/conf_Cable80.htm . If the tech diagnosing your PC's problem doesn't know the difference between 40- and 80-conductor ribbon cable and when 80-conductor cable should be used, he's a pretty clueless tech - get another one, quickly. *|RandyVikssten|* . |
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